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Survey: Greeks Turn Their Backs to Big Parties as Early Elections Near

While date for early elections will be set as soon as the PSI completes at the end of this week, more and more Greeks turn their backs to the two big parties, socialist PASOK and conservative Nea Dimokratia. The parties that governed (and ruined)  the country for more than three decades. Conducted polls show that it will be impossible to any party to gather enough support to form a governing majority. A party needs more than 44% to form a government Nea Dimokratia gets in the average less than 30% and PASOK no more than 11%. The socialist PASOK does not exclude a coalition government with ND. Elections are most likely to take place on April 29th or May 6th, 2012.

Below the latets poll:

Greeks continued to throw their support behind smaller, fringe political parties, a public opinion poll showed Sunday, as support for the country΄s two main parties, the Socialists and the conservative New Democracy party, withered.

According to the poll published in the Sunday Kathimerini newspaper, if elections were held today, nine political parties — up from five currently — would gather enough support to pass the minimum 3% threshold needed to enter parliament.

Dow Jones Newswires, reports that, the same poll showed that the New Democracy party continues to lead in public opinion, garnering 28% of the vote, but not enough to form a governing majority in the 300-member parliament even with a 50 seat bonus awarded to the leading party under Greece΄s electoral system.

The same poll showed that New Democracy΄s popularity had slipped three percentage points since a month ago. And, instead, the poll confirmed that two smaller right wing parties — the newly formed Independent Greeks and the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party — would command 4% and 3.5% of the vote respectively, while the nationalist Laos party would get 4%.

The same poll also showed that the Socialist party would gather just 11% of the vote, up three percentage points from a month ago, but still close to historic lows for the party.

Among other center-left and leftwing parties, the newly formed Democratic Left would get 16% of the vote, followed by 12% for the Coalition of the Radical Left (Syriza), 11% for the Communist Party of Greece and 4% for the Greens party.

Although no official date has been set, Greece is widely expected to go to elections next month, most likely April 29, after the current interim government of Prime Minister Lucas Papademos finalizes a new EUR130 billion bailout for the country and concludes an associated debt restructuring.

In November, the Socialists and New Democracy — along with, initially, Laos — agreed to set up the interim government to lead the country for a few months as Greece negotiated the terms of those two deals. In mid-February, amid violent protests and with the risk of default looming, Greece΄s parliament approved a package of reforms and austerity measures the country will have to take in exchange for the new loan.

The poll Sunday showed that 52% of Greece disagreed with parliament΄s recent approval of the reforms and cutbacks. But, in an apparent contradiction, it also showed that only 46% of Greeks now thought the country would default, down from 60% last month. A majority of Greeks, 67%, think that Greece would be worse off if it abandoned the euro and returned to its old currency the drachma, the poll showed. (Capital.gr)

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  1. Personally speaking, I think that we shouldn’t vote at all. Not even a blank vote. We MUST get rid of these traitors! But that’s just me.

  2. The people are right, both PASOK and ND have shown they are inable to modernize the country. The most recent example for this:

    Michalis Chrysocoidis shall change positions once again. Despite having desastrously failed as the minister of citizen protection during the 2010 riots, when three people, including a pregant woman, where killed by firebombs, he was just anounced as returning to that position. What madness!

    This really doesn’t inspire any confidence in the government. Always the same old faces, conducting a kabuki theatre of changing positions? Enough already! Greece needs new, fresh leadership that is able and willing to engage the big problems of the nation. Kick all the old bums out in the next election!

  3. keeptalkinggreece

    unfortunately, nobody cn secures 95% abstention. Therefore, we’ll go voting.

  4. You won’t get rid of the traitors without voting for someone else! Ok, maybe with a revolution. But is this preferrable to trying the democratic way first?

  5. I agree completely! But concerning this:

    Kick all the old bums out in the next election!

    That’s only possible if there were ‘new bums’ to vote for. Alas, there will not be. Same old 300-something or their friends/family will stand in these coming elections.
    It is a real dilemma. You can only vote for the people who got Greece in this hell. Or you can not vote. When you don’t vote your vote will not count. (I take it there is no minimum? Or this 95% KTG is talking about?) When you go voting you will vote for one of ‘them’.
    If someone has a solution I would be very happy to read about it.

  6. What a catastrophic mess…….

    Most importantly is a vital detail that seems to be absent from these kind of reports. There is presently a frantic effort which is being led by the EU and IMF to stitch Greece up prior to any elections. To do this changes are needed to Greece’s constitution. If successfully accomplished prior to any elections there will be in place an obligation upon any new elected government over and above all else that whosoever is elected will carry out all of the commitments made by either this interim government or the previous PASOK government which have been included in the preceding loan agreements. If this is accomplished it matters not a jot who wins an election it could be Micky Mouse – the future will be determined not by the people but by those already in power and there will be no chance of any alternative paths open to the Greek people

  7. ‘The trial of former Icelandic Prime Minister Geir Haarde, on charges of negligence over the 2008 financial crisis, has begun in Reykjavik.

    Mr Haarde is thought to be the first world leader to face criminal charges over the crisis.’

    That’s what we all want. A fair trial and then…..

  8. keeptalkinggreece

    95% was an exaggeration. I think the threshold is 70%, but I’m not sure of that.

  9. keeptalkinggreece

    we, in this blog, try not to be very …brutl, therefore the edit 🙂

  10. Yeah, I suspected there isn’t really that much new talent coming up to a vote, too. Sad to see you’re confirming this. Greece urgently needs people of real integrity and talent in government, but how to get those on the ballots? Many good folks are disgusted with the ugly shenanigans of Greek politics, that’s understandable, but there’s only two ways to clean up that Augias’ stable: From within, or with a revolution. What’s more preferrable? Every Greek should ask himself: If not me, who else? If not now, when?

  11. Right! A fair convicition, leading to a fair prison sentence, should give the offenders a fair case of headaches for a fairly long time!

  12. I think I agree with TedW’s “…” 😆

  13. keeptalkinggreece

    if the ‘system’ won’t change, it will continue to absorb those with integrity and talent in governance.

  14. iaourti iaourtaki

    How can you blame him for this? You can’t even blame the anarchists or the masses of demonstrators on this day. Nobody can control a demonstration of this size. And nobody knows who were these murderers and without that murder may be the measures would never came through.

    The last “news” about it were that the authorities exactly one year later tried to blame some 5 people, allegedly part of the “nihilist” scene around the “Conspiracy Of The Cells of Fire” but CCF pointed out in a communiqué just a few days after the 5th of May that this action is just anti-social and dissed it as counter. In it they also pointed out that a book store and a basar got arsoned a few moments before.
    I remember after a group of 40 anarchists attacked a police station in Exarchia and visitors and sellers of the near by street market got heavy burns from an exploding police bike these folks wrote something about it and tried to excuse and i still believe if these murderers were part of the “scene” they would have taken some responsibility.
    Instead it lamed the whole movement for a long time.

  15. There is a solution. Ordinary Greeks who are fed up with the “old bums” network have to go into politics themselves. AntonisX would make a good Member of Parliment, wouldn’t you? Or a new minister. Finance maybe? Economy? Development? Infrastructure? No experience? Too big a challenge? Heck, do you really think the present politicans are superhuman? They are just superconfident and self-opinionated – obviously for no good reason.

  16. keeptalkinggreece

    I wouldn’t know that foreigners like Antonis can be elected here. So far only Troika supervisors are allowed to act like ministers and yet, are not elected, they are ‘invited’ 🙂

  17. Well, I didn’t know that AntonisX doesn’t have Greek nationality but then the same applies to you, KTG. If none of the honest Greeks is ready to do the job, they will be stuck with the dishonest politicians forever. And I guess if there was ever a historical chance for a new political force to be elected in Greece it is now.

  18. keeptalkinggreece

    I could be elected here though 🙂

  19. iaourti iaourtaki

    May be you don’t know that Greece made some harder conditions for new parties. So, if there would be an Allende (who was a libertarian socialist) he would have be allowed first.
    But i don’t think it as a bad sign that there is noone around as a “leader” because there’s a revolutionary movement getting out of its cradle that shows all the times that it doesn’t need leaders and politicians. Be it the grassroots unions, be it occupy, be it the neighbourhood assemblies, be it the developing economy without money, be it the increasing number of modern people with skills getting back to farmers life who will insure that Greeks won’t starve or the impressing whole movement of the last years.
    As people say “nothing’s over, it all starts now!” because they know that a revolution will take a long and heavy paths and the world is still watching instead of taking this first steps too.
    Elections that seem to come earlier as planned just look like wanted by the Troikans because they are scarred that lefties could win. I think the Troikans still have a much poorer idea of Greece than me. Scarred of what?
    Syriza denounces tens of thousands demonstrators who took part in the riots (that only happened because the cops tried to kill Theodorakis and Glezos) trying to get back to Syndagma as “parastatal paid thugs”, KKE gots no problem when Golden Dawn Nazis can speak out as collaborator of PAME at the occupied steelworks factory (since 120 days!) that looks like an Argentinian blueprint for Greece except from that the patrons still have the logistics and the market of resources (I still think it a brilliant idea to occupy ELITE shoe factory and start production: 1000 jobs!)
    that gets too long, sorry, in reality it’s the decision of the populations of Greece

  20. iaourti iaourtaki

    Don’t you forget about the solitarians from Nantes who ask for Greek citizenship?
    Even Greek investors are pissed off that every investor needs to speak Greek but have no problem to invest in German speaking countries.
    In central Europe there are about 500.000 Greeks speaking perfect German. None of these folks ever provided any proper translation for the radicals, everything gets translated from English that was transferred from Greek – means important shit gets lost. Guess how many German Greeks took the NTV moutza as Sieg Heil too? I remember German Greeks after 6th of December saying we got starving people in Germoney too, stop the riots!
    No problem if they aren’t radical but the more “Antihellenism” rises the more it gets important to translate your site into a Kraut version and i think you know this intention..

  21. The Troika wants to stabilize the Eurozone, and for that it is necessary to do long term planning, of course. With the next bailout tranche now about to be paid, there’s some fear that the Papademos’ government will take the money, only for a new government to still default on the debt in May. There’s a lot of money at stake and the other Eurozone governments are already facing gowing criticism by their own voters about the whole bailout program. It would be quite a PR desaster if after all those long and difficult negotiations the plan would go bust after less than three months. So, the concerns are quite understandable, imho.

    Of course, the many conservative governments involved in this wouldn’t like to see left wing parties winning in Greece. But imho the uncertainty about the next government’s course trumps the ideological differences big time. The fact that the DA or Syriza haven’t presented any specifics about their stance towards the Eurozone and Eurodebt issue yet certainly creates anxiety among the Troika gang. And I’m sure among many Greek voters, too. Yet another election where you don’t know what you’re voting for? This isn’t really something to be enthusiastic about.

  22. Lots of fans of the French revolution nowadays…